Friday, March 20, 2009

Netflix Trying for Consistent Excellence on Streaming

This is Neil Hunt, Chief Product Officer at Netflix.

There’s been some blog swirl about Netflix streaming delivery, and I’d like to explain what we are doing to improve our streaming delivery. Our aspiration is to deliver to everyone the best bitrate that their broadband connection can support.

Congestion Could Affect Some Users, But Not Others, at Some Times, but Not Always

Content from Netflix originates on CDN servers that are distributed around the US (just as our DVD shipping centers are) so that the data doesn’t have to traverse the Internet backbones to get to our customers, but instead can usually reach its destination via regional and metro networks that have much higher aggregate bandwidth. This means that if there is any congestion and slowdown, it will be different in different regions (by Internet topology, which isn’t completely tied to geography). Hence some customers may be affected, while others are not. Also, routing to different ISPs in the same region may be quite different, thus performance may also be quite different, even for neighbors, if they are connected to different ISPs. Moreover, congesting points can rise and fall with ISP configuration changes and other conditions.

Different Content, Different Devices, Different Characteristics


Finally, different titles, and different encodes for different playback device types, may come from different CDNs or different servers at a particular CDN, so may have different paths and different bottlenecks. Accordingly, customers may see better performance on Xbox than their PC, or vice-versa. Equivalently, some titles may stream unaffected, while others suffer congestion. There is no purposeful discrimination between different clients – we want them all to perform very well.

Getting to More Consistent Delivery by Routing Around the Problems

Our engineering team is working to multi-source most content, so that there are many possible alternatives in case of regional congestion (as long as the congestion isn't in the customer's home or last-mile infrastructure, in which case there is little we can do). Our newest Silverlight player (for Mac and PC) incorporates an initial version of multi-sourcing, and as we improve it, we’ll roll it out to everyone including our device partners such as Roku and Xbox. We hope by the end of year to have this problem largely solved.

In Home Congestion

While not a server issue, let me touch on in-home congestion. It’s relatively obvious that if you have another PC in your home downloading large files, your home network or you last-mile network may be impacted. What’s less obvious is that even heavy upstream traffic can be a problem by impeding the flow of acknowledgement packets back to the servers, which respond by sending smaller and smaller packets in case the data gets damaged in transit. Since most home broadband has much lower upstream bandwidth than downstream, it’s quite easy to saturate the upstream direction with a PC-backup application, or a Skype-video call, for example.

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Anonymous said...

We are having the same problems as many other comments.tried Mozilla and all other fixes.

THE OLD PLAYER WAS MUCH BETTER

Larry said...

With all the complaints about the Silverlight player, I thought I'd add a positive comment. I love it. The picture quality is greatly improved over the old player and movies are seldom interrupted anymore.

For PC users having trouble with buffering, just do a Ctl-Alt-Shft-S and choose a lower bitrate.

Online movies are finally a realistic option for me. Thanks!

Anonymous said...

Netflix, you aren't working "hard enough" to resolve this streaming issue.

I have done everything that Netflix requires, and even updated drivers in my PC. My internet connection is wireless. Nothing I have done is resolving this issue with Streaming (the lack of it).

The issue lies with Netflix. I have visited and searched too many blogs and forums where I can plainly see that many, many people are having this same problem.

Why does Netflix insist upon using Silverlight and not the old system that was once used?

I joined Netflix 2 months ago and am extremely disappointed with the "Watch movies instantly" service (do I dare call it that?).

I am seriously contemplating cancelling my Netflix account solely because of this issue.

Lorinda R. Earles

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Anonymous said...

HULU works and it's free.
Why does this present such a problem for netflix?
Well lets see,
1.Nobody is really working on a solution.
2.The Million dollar giveaways are more important.
3.The money will keep rolling in so who cares.

You fill in the blank.
I have spent about $4200.00 on equipment to watch 1080P with 5.1 sound and if netflix does not even provide 480P then it's BA-BYE.
Fix it NOW!

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my steam works good its never skipped or stopped to buffer on my pc,xbox or mac the only thing i have a problem with is why the hell do streaming movies look like you set up a video camera in a movie theater ??? like wtf if i wanted to watch shit like that id torrent movies not pay for them!

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Anonymous said...

My only issue with the player is the constant tearing caused by lack of vsync. It's bad enough to make the movies nearly unwatchable.

ImagraphicX said...

Mr. Hunt,

I appreciate the information, and the PR that Netflix wants to deliver the best streaming (especially since it is essentially only part of the pay packages).

After 9 months though of knowing of the problems you will still find about 100 pages of persons complaining about the Silverlight switch.!

After 9 months, and yet Hulu, ABC, TNT, CBS all play smoothly.

And I don't pay for them, though I would pay for Hulu if they start that.

And I must cancel Netflix (or put it down to 1-2 DVDs at a time), and just stick with Network TV. I cannot get Cable in my area, so Netflix Instant was such a beatiful thing (before Silverlight).

Funny, I cannot even get Silverlight to work with IE7, after spending 3 hours on the phone with Microsoft (at who's expense?) Just to watch Netflix?

FireFox 3.5 plays it - but choppy streaming is an understatement. I no longer enjoy my Netflix subscription - and find myself trying to watch Instant, then immediately going over to Hulu or the Networks to watch whatever I can.

I had just bought the Roku box, but the new way of streaming will probably effect that over my DSL, so I don't even want to hook it up.

I'm looking for another Pay Service with or without downloads or DVDs, so I can watch streaming smoothly on PC.

Thanks, good luck, and bye Netflix. You were my favorite service before this "well, it's not broken, but let's fix it", and you broke it.

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