Thursday, July 3, 2008

New genre pages

We have a new layout and design for genre pages.

There are larger images, and easy-to-scan rows. You can use 'sliders' to click through to more movies without leaving the page, like we have in our new releases section. If you don't want to use the 'sliders', you can choose to see the full set in a new page. These are in a gallery-type format, and you can toggle to see them in a sortable list view. We also updated the color scheme.

The new pages are responsive, so if you rate movies you'll likely see a row of suggestions for you in that genre, and we will highlight your preferred sub-genres as well.

Take a look, and let us know what you think.

-Meghan

57 comments:

  1. I am extremely pleased that someone finally listened and implemented the ability to sort by year. That is most useful change you guys have made the Netflix site in years! I'm wondering though if these movies are also listed in order of release within the year? For example, will the newest releases be at the top or is it just all movies within a year in no other order?

    I still hate the sliders and will now have to go through a number of clicks to get through to the sortable list view that I would rather see automatically... but the ability to sort by date somewhat makes up for the hassle. Thank you for adding in this essential, and up until now, glaringly missing feature!

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  2. Finally !!! Sort By Year !!! Thank You So Much for Giving and not Taking this time (RTW)!! Very Useful Tool.

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  3. Very easy to use. I really like it. Can't wait for more movies to come to the view instantly area.

    It kicks ass all over the functionality of the Blockbuster site. My only negative comment would be the unnecessary window that comes up after you add a movie to your queue. I understand that it is showing you the progress, but when it is done it should disappear on its own. I finally discovered that if I click on the area around it it will disappear. But I would still like it to go away on its own.

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  4. I've only been messing with it for a few minutes, and I've found a bug. If you click on the Horror Genre, and you see the slider that says "Available on Blu-ray", if you click "See All", it takes you to a page listing all movies available on Blu-ray.

    It should instead take you to a page listing all Horror films available on Blu-ray, shouldn't it?

    Otherwise, I'll agree with everyone that the Sliders idea is bad, I can't believe the entire Netflix site has now adopted this. I'm sorry, but I don't know anyone that likes them. I am forwarding straight to the sortable list view no matter what.

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  5. I'M truly liking these new features, and would improve on them just a tad.

    I don't know how difficult this would be to implement. But it would be cool if the sorting process could be a bit more "logical" (probably not the right word)

    That is, I first choose to sort by Title, then could choose to sort those results by MPAA.

    The result would be a list of titles starting with A, sorted by MPAA, then B sorted by MPAA etc.

    The ultimate would be the ability to sort by all columns! Imagine a list of titles sorted…

    By Name, then by year released, then by MPAA, then by Star Rating!

    Bliss! Heck add a line a letter "anchors" that we could click on to go straight to the "G's" or "M's" and I be in sorted list heaven!

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  6. It would be very helpful to know if a DVD has a preview attached to it prior to having to click on it to open it up and see. A symbol or just a capital P near the title would be helpful. Also, with the new slider bars, if you look to see if there is a preview of the film and then click back,it takes you to the beginning of the slider not the position you where at. This is very frustrating if you've clicked through 3 or 4 times only to be sent to the beginning. Thanks.

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  7. Nice! Especially sort by year. Though I can't abide the sliders either (and yet 98/99% of the focus groups LOVE them, right? ;). Might even go so far as to suggest that we be able to set 'lists' as an option on our account page. Some of us just love "the facts, Ma'am", with little or no interest in all this pretty but data gorging box art. But I'll certainly allow that we're a small and troubled minority on that one!

    Would also co-sign 2Mac's petition for cumulative sortability so we can vector in on very specific sub-sub-sub genres.

    But this is a very nice start for getting at that higher hanging fruit. Happy 4th all!

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  8. Hello,
    My first comment in the blog.

    I really like that I can see a sortable list of various genres, Blu-ray, etc. That's really helpful. Good job Netflix.

    Something that would also be really helpful (and something I've been wanting for a long time) is to be able to see a list of titles that are in "Save" mode (ie, those with the green Save button). Some available titles go out of stock and revert to the Save button, and some previously unavailable titles become available and will be available to rent soon, along with new titles available to rent in the near future. It would be really helpful to be able to see all that.

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  9. Nice! I don't have any large complaints. Some are complaining about the sliders but I'm happy to see that you've made so many ways to view the movies available. It gives people many more options and allows them to access the titles in their preferred manner. So it's an extra click. I'll click one extra time to get to the way I want to see it.

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  10. I can no longer rate a title Not Interested unless I go to that specific movie's page. That's a pain in the ass.

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  11. It would be very helpful to be able to select "not interersted" from any of the various ways of sorting/looking at moview lists.

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  12. It would be very helpful to be able to select "not interersted" from any of the various ways of sorting/looking at moview lists.

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  13. \AGREE: I can no longer rate a title Not Interested unless I go to that specific movie's page. That's a pain in the ass.

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  14. I've never understood or used 'not interested', but I know that many people do, so it's always struck me as odd that it's sometimes there and sometimes not.

    LOVING this new variable view toggle option. Dare one hope that it's a test for sitewide implementation?

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  15. That is, 'not interested' as opposed to 1 star. Or, better yet, marking its entire genre 1 star, which both seem to get the job done just fine.

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  16. If you don't want to use the 'sliders', you can choose to see the full set in a new page. These are in a gallery-type format, and you can toggle to see them in a sortable list view.

    I assume this is a work in progress or is Netflix still thumbing their nose at the customers who use the "Releasing This Week" page?

    All the sliders EXCEPT the new releases have the "view all" option. It is a real pain in the neck to have to scroll through ten or 20 slider pages to see the new releases, not to mention that they are not sortable either.

    Considering you have had THOUSANDS of posts on this blog asking for that, it is disapointing that you make a big announcement about this change, but only do it half-way.

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  17. Netflix is going downhill. Can someone explain to me why dozens of movies such as 'Saw 4' and the Star Wars themed 'Family Guy' are listed under 'new releases', while REAL new releases or 'releasing this week' or 'in theaters now' sections are nowhere to be found? My theory is that Netflix doesn't really want us to rent movies, so when we see nothing but 'new releases' which came out SIX MONTHS ago, we will simply sign off. This is the exact reason I stopped going to Blockbuster stores years ago. If you check out their online site, you will see why they have pulled ahead, and Netflix lags behind. I guess it is time to switch back- obviously Netflix doesn't really care about ensuring it's customers are provided the best possible service. I am so mad, because I used to be such a faithful customer. Not any more.

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  18. I loved the Sort by Year (Finally!) but I never liked the sliders and since you asked our opinion, I would suggest to remove it from both New Releases and Genres. Also please remove the pop up window that comes up after we add a movie to our queue. It is annoying!

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  19. I'm disappointed in the new genres list. Why can I no longer include films I've already rated in the list? If Netflix expects me to rate hundreds of subgenres, it makes no sense to make it impossible to view my existing ratings in the subgenre.

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  20. When can we see the "view all" option added to the new releases sliders?

    What is the point of making a big announcement of a new feature that doesn't work, or isn't finished?

    About time you people hired a REAL quality control expert so you don't keep releasing unfinished and untested new features.

    Making a big announcement of a new feature that doesn't work really makes your company look like it is clueless about customer service.

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  21. Sick and tired of the endless whiningJuly 10, 2008 at 8:44 PM

    Off the meds again, Howard? Why not just put us all out of your agony and take your business elsewhere if you're so chronically unhappy with Netflix?

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  22. Great look and feel, and the new graphics add to the new functionality very nicely. The pages are not cluttered, and, as you pointed out in your write-up, the changes help the readability.

    Now that we can sort the results on title, rating, year and MPAA rating, the experience provided by the site is more friendly than before. THANK YOU! You guys are awesome!

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  23. The sortable lists feature is awesome. When can we have something like this on the New Releases page again?

    I am pleased to have noticed a link to the old non-slider formatted page off of your blog just now, but that's the only place I know to link to a simple text view of new releases for the week...

    Text lists FTW!

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  24. More also-er, I see no way to get from the slider view directly to the lists view. Suggestion: Steal Apple's Finder view interface wholesale. Three icons, one for icon/big pic view, one for list view, and perhaps even on for column view, where the first column is genres, allowing for highspeed drill down.

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  25. I HATE the sliders.

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  26. I liked the new style until it stopped loading images. Anyone else having slow or incomplete loading of images? My wife an I (on different computers) have been having trouble with all of the Netflix website pages for more than three days. (Suspecting a load balancing image server problem, but what do I know.)

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  27. I HATE the Browse Genres pages now. Please, please get rid of those sliders, and provide a page where I can see "real" ratings of the films (not what you think I would rate it based on previous ratings). If I want to see the top-rated Chinese film that Netflix has to offer, how do I find it? I can't, not on Netflix.

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  28. If I want to see the top-rated Chinese film that Netflix has to offer, how do I find it?

    Try adopting a profile specifically for searching. As long as you don't rate anything as that identity, the highest rated (by members) movie in any genre or sub-genre should show up first on the list.

    And I agree. I generally trust those stars more than Netflix's projection of my rating, so having the option of which kind of stars we're shown - on the page, not just on the pop-up description - would be great.

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  29. Btw, re finding the top rated Chinese (or whatever) movie, you have to click on the word 'Ratings' in the 'sortable list view'.

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  30. Speaking of genres, why is "Foreign" still listed as a genre???

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  32. I hate the sliders for new releases. Time to take them out and go back to the original view. It is such a PITA to search through the unending list of crap and try to find a movie you know just released. Guess it is time to try Blockbuster.

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  33. as far as i am concerned, this is a step in the right direction, but also a step back. making the lists sortable is awesome, but some of the original functionality is gone. please add the option to be able to include added/rated movies. what if i have 500 movies in my queue, and i want to know which one of the action films i'm most likely to like is, so i can move it to the top of my queue? since i can only see movies NOT in my queue, the new sortable lists don't really work that well for me anymore. wold it really be that hard to include an option like before? netflix seems really worried about "confusing" the users, but i think enough people are familiar enough with computers (and basic logic) to be able to figure out what checking a box that says "include rated or added movies" means. why is it that each new (and often cool) implementation also usually means losing some of the original features? build on what you have, don't destroy! just go more customizable. dumb people simply don't have to touch the settings. makes everyone happy.

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  34. Well said, Anon (6.47am). I love the new sort-by feature too, but why movies we've rated are now being excluded from search results (and not just here) is totally mystifying. Many of my own ratings are based on how I think I remember feeling about a movie 10.. 20 years ago, so I often welcome being reminded about them and re-visiting them (I'm guessing that some 20% of my rentals are repeats), so to have all these half-forgotten gems removed from the roster actually negates one of the main purposes of rating : namely, to be offered as many custom-picked movies as possible, whether we've seen them or not. But then you probably get lots of people yelling "wtf are you showing me movies I've already seen??!!"

    Which brings me to ditto #2 : customization. To 'simplify' such a brilliantly input-reactive and fully loaded site to the lowest technological common denominator is like putting a 55 mph speed lock on a Ferrari to protect us from ourselves. By all means default it to 'Gramp Mode' for the majority of perfectly happy putterers, but please let the rest of us ramp up the features to suit our needs and abilities beyond just being able to enable 'Extra movie info' and 'Drag and Drop'. I mean, People, that's just sad!

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  35. I have no problem with the new look except for taking away the "not interested" button. I'm not going to rate something one star if I haven't seen it just to get rid of it. And as a horror movie buff there are a lot of ones out there that I'm not interested in. It's pretty tedious clicking on the individual movie pages just to mark them not interested. Please bring the button back!

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  36. Netflix has gone downhill for me.
    I will be discontinuing my account.

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  37. Howard? Is that you? Where ya bin? We kinda missed ya in a funny (very funny) way.

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  38. I like the new Genre setup with all the available sub-genres easily displayed. It makes it very easy for my wife to find the Romantic Comedies she likes.

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  39. I like the change very well, with one exception. I came here to see if anyone else had found a way to see the movies you'd rated in that genre, as we could before.

    It would also be nice if, where the information is incomplete, we could somehow flag that page to someone to add genre or cast information.

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  40. Everything is screwed up now. I can no longer get the pop-up descriptions by running my cursor over a movie, my friends pages are gone, and when I go to new releases I get an empty page. The sliders are gone, and so is almost everything else. ?????

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  41. So far I have nothing to complain about in the 4 or 5 YEARS that I have been with NetFlix. I am wondering if it would be too hard to add the "Instant Que to the front page??? It is such a hassle to have to always go back to the regular Q' and then click on "Instant Q"........there is one other thing that would be nice, how about having a suggestion page at the front instead of me taking almost an hour to find out how to add this suggestion? Just a thought, keep up the good work, I love it after all these years!!! Becky

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  42. Hate the sliders. Very annoying to go horiz.

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  43. I have not been able to view "New Releases" for weeks. all I get is a blank page. Also, I much preferred the "Releasing this Week" venue particularily for finding more current foreign releases. I found that most of the films listed as 'New" have been out in video stores for months !!!

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  44. I just signed up about a week ago. So far, it has been extremely frustrating experience. It has been impossible find movies without using another website to browse through movie titles as the only way I can find anything is through "search." Your lack of closed captioning on your "instant movies" means that feature is mostly unuable for those of us with hearing loss. Your website is rather tiresome to use as it is not intended for 800 x 600 resolution which is necessary for some with vision loss. Overall a big disappointment.

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  45. please bring back the 'not interested' button, the site is useless without the ability to remove titles.

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  46. I am here to echo what Mort wrote (8/3/08). Why can't I have the option to still browse for movies that I've rated before? If a movie I've previously loved is now available on Instant Watch, for instance, I can't see that it's available by simply browsing in that genre. It's really annoying. In order to find it, I have to search for the exact title.

    I also hate the sliders!

    I've been with Netflix for years; I hope someone addresses these issues.

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  47. I've been a Netflix customer since 2001 and I hate the new interface. I basically no longer use the website because of it. Every genre defaults to alphabetical order. So why did Netflix spend so much energy figuring out what movies I'd like only to put a movie that begins with 'A' and that Netflix guesses I'll give 1 star to on the FIRST PAGE OF THE GENRE? You've basically destroyed the site.

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  48. The new page sucks! It doesn't appear that "NEW RELEASES" has been updated in weeks. I don't care about new releases from three months ago, six months ago or a year ago. Those are not NEW releases. I want to know what has been released in the last week or two.

    I've been waiting for "21", and finally did a search and see it is out, it doesn't appear on "NEW RELEASES". How about updating weekly?

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  49. "Not Interested" is still missing?! That has to be the most critical tool I used here. Is there any hope of reinstating it? I can't believe that Netflix would rather we gave false one-star ratings since that's the only work around.

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  50. How do I get rid of your recommendations? And also, how do I get rid of those clunky large images?

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  51. How about updating the Queue so that the subscriber can divide it into categories. Use tabs that can be labeled by the user such as Comedy, Drama, Hitchcock, 70s Movies, etc. Is that doable?

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  52. You seem to think that your shipping problems have been solved. You would never know it from where I sit. Your deliveries to me have been nearly non existent for the last several weeks. I used to tout your service to everyone but unless things improve dramatically that will change.
    R.W.Anderson
    randerson3@cfl.rr.com

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  53. first time i've visited this blog. not sure if this is the right place to comment. I am one that never liked the sliders and find it very irritating that I can't select how *I* would like to see the new releases. It was so much easier before when it was one big list in a group. At least bring back that functionality for those who like it. How hard can that be?

    I also just noticed today that there are no longer any star ratings AT ALL beneath the movies. I don't understand that decision at all. The Netflix accumulated customer review stars were so darn accurate in predicting whether a movie was any good. And now they are GONE. The only reviews I have access to are various ones from known reviewers and a few from Netflix community members. I would like to have the overall Netflix community rating again.

    Why take away information for your customers? Information should be easy to find and in a format that is preferred by your customers not by some 'focus group.'

    I'm sad Netflix is becoming LESS useful for me over time, rather than more useful.

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  54. Ok i know you are proud of the
    "new"Slider bits on the site.
    However i have been a member for a couple of years now and i liked the old style you know where you can see the whole list all on the same page!
    i know there is a way to see some of the content that way but it "IS NOT" offered on all scrolling categories in fact MOST of them when you select the type of movie you want to see from action to horror you are taken to an identical page that asks you yet again what type you want "the word here is Redundant" why ask me more than once what type of movie i want to see i already made my selection!
    Oh yeah and the little section or link that says "veiw all" most of the selections do not work!.....I.E. they take you back to the exact same page you were just trying to avoid. hey thanks for making my experience that much more frustrating and oh yeah Time consuming

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  55. I'm a bit late to the party noticing the sortable list view feature, but thank you SO much for listening Netflix! This is hands-down the best, most important feature you have ever added to the site. :)

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  56. Thank you! Finally an easier way to search. Thank you for adding in this essential, and up until now, glaringly missing feature!

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